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biuro74
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 Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: How to stream audio from microphone ? |
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Hi,
I'm very new in streaming and have just installed Icecast on my Linux.
I'd like to stream an audio from my mic to Lan, so how to modify icecast.xml config file ? As I'm reading, it seems to be another program installed as a "source maker" for Icecast Server.
Can anyone help me a bit to show, what's going on there ?
Thx
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mj_martino
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cookiesunshinex
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This is a great article. It helps explain some of the terminology with icecast, especially the relays.
I am setting up a DJ radio station, where actual DJs will have different radio shows. The (DJs) sources will be from different places around the world. Some will be PC and some will be Mac OS X. I plan to use edcast standalone for PC and nicecast for Mac OS X users. This is because the signal will come from a set of Turntables/CDJs and DJ Mixer into the sound card on the source (DJs) computers.
We won't be streaming Winamp or Itunes mp3 playlists, almost all shows will be live performance.
Am I correct in assuming that Edcast and Nicecast would be the easiest to use and configure?
Next, I want to configure several different mount points so that each DJ will have a unique password because I don't want the source signal getting too complicated with having to coordinate this with several people around the globe.
Is there any limit to the number of mount points that I can set in icecast.xml? Is there a better recommended way for handling so many sourdces (DJs)?
I plan on setting up ices on the server and have an intro and a few playlist files that will play between the time DJ1 stops his show and DJ2 starts his show, or there are no DJs shows scheduled.
In this scenario, would my fallback for each mount be the ices playlist source?
Since, I'll be using ices and edcast, I'll have to configure each mount point to have an .ogg extension. Correct?
Can an .ogg stream be played by itunes and winamp natively without having any additional plugins added to them?
Thanks for anyone who ventures to answer any of my questions. I have the server currently running and playing fine with nicecast using only a default source/mountpoint. I've read through the documentation and the forums for a few days before posting anything here. |
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wirelessgimp
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| cookiesunshinex wrote: |
This is a great article. It helps explain some of the terminology with icecast, especially the relays.
I am setting up a DJ radio station, where actual DJs will have different radio shows. The (DJs) sources will be from different places around the world. Some will be PC and some will be Mac OS X. I plan to use edcast standalone for PC and nicecast for Mac OS X users. This is because the signal will come from a set of Turntables/CDJs and DJ Mixer into the sound card on the source (DJs) computers.
We won't be streaming Winamp or Itunes mp3 playlists, almost all shows will be live performance.
Am I correct in assuming that Edcast and Nicecast would be the easiest to use and configure? |
Pretty much so, just remember that nicecast needs a licence or it overlays static on the stream after 20 minutes (I'm sure you got that covered though)
| cookiesunshinex wrote: |
Next, I want to configure several different mount points so that each DJ will have a unique password because I don't want the source signal getting too complicated with having to coordinate this with several people around the globe.
Is there any limit to the number of mount points that I can set in icecast.xml? Is there a better recommended way for handling so many sourdces (DJs)?
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No limits on mountpoint as far as I know.
so, how will your listeners connect to the stream, are you gonna setup a relay that will pick up the various DJs stream? (I am not even sure whether you can do that but I haven't understood all the manual yet)
Or are your listeners going to need a long list of mountpoints for each different show?
I would suggest a single mountpoint for your DJs and for them to "talk" to each other (IRC is what we use) and have a fallback-mount to your ices and then fallback override enabled as well.
| cookiesunshinex wrote: |
I plan on setting up ices on the server and have an intro and a few playlist files that will play between the time DJ1 stops his show and DJ2 starts his show, or there are no DJs shows scheduled.
In this scenario, would my fallback for each mount be the ices playlist source?
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It would be, but consider my suggestion above, otherwise you might want to look at some streams managing software like soap/savonet(I think that's what it's called)
| cookiesunshinex wrote: |
Since, I'll be using ices and edcast, I'll have to configure each mount point to have an .ogg extension. Correct?
Can an .ogg stream be played by itunes and winamp natively without having any additional plugins added to them?
Thanks for anyone who ventures to answer any of my questions. I have the server currently running and playing fine with nicecast using only a default source/mountpoint. I've read through the documentation and the forums for a few days before posting anything here. |
itunes won't play .ogg natively it needs a plugin, winamp used to need a plugin as well, not sure on the latest versions, also, when I was testing the fallback + fallback override itunes seemed to have problems with that, at least this is what I was told by the person testing it with itunes for me.
Streaming in ogg is great but it usually meets a problem in the shape of your listeners which don't want to have to do more than click a link to tune in it'll depends on them whixh way you decide to go. |
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cookiesunshinex
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| wirelessgimp wrote: |
| cookiesunshinex wrote: |
This is a great article. It helps explain some of the terminology with icecast, especially the relays.
I am setting up a DJ radio station, where actual DJs will have different radio shows. The (DJs) sources will be from different places around the world. Some will be PC and some will be Mac OS X. I plan to use edcast standalone for PC and nicecast for Mac OS X users. This is because the signal will come from a set of Turntables/CDJs and DJ Mixer into the sound card on the source (DJs) computers.
We won't be streaming Winamp or Itunes mp3 playlists, almost all shows will be live performance.
Am I correct in assuming that Edcast and Nicecast would be the easiest to use and configure? |
Pretty much so, just remember that nicecast needs a licence or it overlays static on the stream after 20 minutes (I'm sure you got that covered though)
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Yeah, already licensed and covered.
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| cookiesunshinex wrote: |
Next, I want to configure several different mount points so that each DJ will have a unique password because I don't want the source signal getting too complicated with having to coordinate this with several people around the globe.
Is there any limit to the number of mount points that I can set in icecast.xml? Is there a better recommended way for handling so many sourdces (DJs)?
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No limits on mountpoint as far as I know.
so, how will your listeners connect to the stream, are you gonna setup a relay that will pick up the various DJs stream? (I am not even sure whether you can do that but I haven't understood all the manual yet)
Or are your listeners going to need a long list of mountpoints for each different show?
I would suggest a single mountpoint for your DJs and for them to "talk" to each other (IRC is what we use) and have a fallback-mount to your ices and then fallback override enabled as well.
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I see, so if I have multiple mount points, that means multiple "listen" or "stream.m3u" links on the actual HTML page where end-users will click when they want to listen to the show?
So each mountpoint becomes like an additional radio station that icecast2 server is handling? Is that right?
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| cookiesunshinex wrote: |
I plan on setting up ices on the server and have an intro and a few playlist files that will play between the time DJ1 stops his show and DJ2 starts his show, or there are no DJs shows scheduled.
In this scenario, would my fallback for each mount be the ices playlist source?
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It would be, but consider my suggestion above, otherwise you might want to look at some streams managing software like soap/savonet(I think that's what it's called)
| cookiesunshinex wrote: |
Since, I'll be using ices and edcast, I'll have to configure each mount point to have an .ogg extension. Correct?
Can an .ogg stream be played by itunes and winamp natively without having any additional plugins added to them?
Thanks for anyone who ventures to answer any of my questions. I have the server currently running and playing fine with nicecast using only a default source/mountpoint. I've read through the documentation and the forums for a few days before posting anything here. |
itunes won't play .ogg natively it needs a plugin, winamp used to need a plugin as well, not sure on the latest versions, also, when I was testing the fallback + fallback override itunes seemed to have problems with that, at least this is what I was told by the person testing it with itunes for me.
Streaming in ogg is great but it usually meets a problem in the shape of your listeners which don't want to have to do more than click a link to tune in it'll depends on them whixh way you decide to go. |
Well, I want to make it as idiot proof and easy as many to as many users as possible, which is going to be iTunes, Winamp, and Windows Media Player for most people with an MP3 stream.
In that case, I'll have to install Ices 0.4 for the fallback since it streams MP3 instead of .ogg, and then that means that I cannot use Edcast for the PC users.
Any other suggestions for streaming live performance (from the sound-card) on the PC platform for streaming MP3 instead of .ogg? Simplecast seems simple, but it's also $149 USD. |
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karlH
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You don't have to stick with mp3 only, you can have different formats, just allow the listeners to choose. You can use edcast for your setup, obviously the usual mp3 licence considerations will need to be checked into.
Just to clarify, winamp non-lite versions are ogg capable, The others you mentioned will need a plugin to play. The .ogg extension is really to tell the players that don't parse the headers what codec to use.
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wirelessgimp
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| Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2008 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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edcast does mp3 fine just make sure you have lame installed before you install it.
And yes giving a choice between ogg and mp3 is a good idea too.
I've been playing with ices 0.4 this week but am encountering problems (could just be me), I'll be posting about that and problems I've encountered with liveice and icegenrator as well in the source forum soon. |
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cookiesunshinex
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I tried Edcast and it works really well and it is very simple to configure.
This is a great Linux/PC solution and compares with what I have for Mac OS X clients that are currently using Nicecast. Though Nicecast does cost $30 USD. |
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