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mkido



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

(fr:) Bonjour, Monsieur jcr,

Merci, beaucoup. C'est très bien avec votre aide. Je vais travailler FC-12, puis, pouvez-vous me dire vos changes, s'il vous plaît? Un peu plus tard, à bientôt! -- mkido.

(en:) Excuse me other readers, I am aware of Forum Francophone. If the discussion will go on a long one in French, then we may move to the "Forum Francophone". I thought just a greeting would be fine here. Excuse me.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi mkido,

Well, I'm french, but I can help with english too, so no problem with english.

I'll make source and binary FC12 rpms for ices-0.4 (renamed 0.4-jcr for safety) with all patches to allow smooth build and operation.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 4:42 pm    Post subject: Dear jcr, are you there? Reply with quote

Hello et Bonjour jcr,

(en:) I finally got running one Fedora Core 12 at Acer ASPIRE One computer. Excuse me it took a long time, since I am very careful for the transition, and now all my office and server environment are Fedora Core 7 migrated from FC-4. I have been working ices-0.4 and icecast 2.3 to set up by this Forum help of karlH in the last two weeks. It has been a great progress.


(fr:) Car vous avez offert les source et binary FC12 for ices-0.4 (ices-0.4-jcr), peux je les avoir maintenant? Parce que mon ices-0.4 RPM en cours en FC-7 est de 'Centova.com", une compagnie canadienne, et je n'ai pas de source. Il vaut mieux d'avoir une source et le binary RPM de médiateur d'IceCast.org.

Merci, merci beaucoup, jcr.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 29, 2010 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ices0 for Fedora is now included in AT RPMs repository. You can fetch binary or source rpm package from there for your Fedora flavor.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 30, 2010 5:02 pm    Post subject: thank you, jcr. Reply with quote

Hi! jcr,

I may have a few questions about available RPM and src.RPM, so please hang around the forum. Here is the first question. My regular "rpm -ivh foo.src.rpm" didn't create a new directory with files. I issued the above command line at /usr/src/ OR /home/mkido/ as super-user. Usually, "foo.src.rpm" make a new folder with a name like ices and there are a bunch of source codes file. And the next step is
./configure
make
make install

My command line "rpm -ivh foo.src.rpm" looks worked, but I don't know where are the direcotry and files are extraced, or not extraced. Any help?

mkido

Code:
[root@localhost mkido]# ll
total 380
drwxrwxr-x 2 mkido mkido   4096 2010-10-30 09:15 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 mkido mkido   4096 2010-10-10 20:25 Desktop
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mkido mkido 379498 2010-10-30 09:38 ices0-0.4-4.src.rpm
[root@localhost mkido]# rpm -ivh ices0-0.4-4.src.rpm
warning: ices0-0.4-4.src.rpm: Header V4 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 66534c2b
   1:ices0                  ########################################### [100%]
[root@localhost mkido]# ll
total 380
drwxrwxr-x 2 mkido mkido   4096 2010-10-30 09:15 bin
drwxr-xr-x 2 mkido mkido   4096 2010-10-10 20:25 Desktop
-rw-rw-r-- 1 mkido mkido 379498 2010-10-30 09:38 ices0-0.4-4.src.rpm
[root@localhost mkido]# ll
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 31, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well,

When you install a source RPM, it installs the source files, patches abnd so on in SOURCE in your RPM build environment, and the .spec file in SPECS directory.

Ti build a rpm from a source rpm, you have to cd to the SPEC directory and issue the following command:

rpmbuild -ba ices0.spec

for building a binary RPM for your arch.

But why the hell would you like to install from source when a binary package (and very well built) one is available in repository ?

a simple rpm -Uvh Http://path.to.repository.for.your.arch/ices0-0.4-4.i386.rpm (or x86_64 for 64 bit) ?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 01, 2010 10:18 pm    Post subject: jcr, bonjour. Reply with quote

Hi ! jcr, thanks for your reply.

I haven't used "rpmbuild" never before, so give me some time to understand how to use.

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But why the hell would you like to install from source when a binary package (and very well built) one is available in repository ?



Well, as the server administrator of TuneFind, I wish to stream a couple of different audio streams (hopefully from the same computer), and I wish to stream hundres of very short sound clips. I do not know IceCast and Ices are the best option for the tiny clips streaming, but I gradually want to get into details adjustment for my company's purpose. To do this, it is better to understand at the source code level, rather than just an user of IceCast and Ices. I want to become familiar with both ready to use RPM as well as source codes and compilation process. In short, the customization in future in my mind, I want to try both ways.

Merci beaucoup, jcr,

mkido
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: my FC12 computer is still local. Reply with quote

Hi! jcr and everyone,

First of all, I would better to tell you my environment. The testing phase FC12 computer stays at local, just in front of me, and it is not connected to Internet with static IP. It locates at my home office behind DHCP router because I am working FC12 just as a part of another testing about ices-0.4.

I fetched the ready ices 0.4 RPM for FC12, and issued my familiar command line,
# rpm -ivh ices0-0.4-4.fc12.i686.rpm
and here is the result,

Code:

[root@localhost bin]# rpm -ivh ices0-0.4-4.fc12.i686.rpm
warning: ices0-0.4-4.fc12.i686.rpm: Header V4 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 66534c2b
error: Failed dependencies:
   libmp3lame.so.0 is needed by ices0-0.4-4.fc12.i686
[root@localhost bin]#
 


Obviously I need to install "libmp3lame.so.0". And I don't know where to place this missing lib.


Next question is, by HTTP way of RPM installation. I never installed a .RPM file by using # rpm -Uvh Http://path.to.repository../,

Quote:
a simple rpm -Uvh Http://path.to.repository.for.your.arch/ices0-0.4-4.i386.rpm (or x86_64 for 64 bit) ?


Is it better way? Especially solving dependencies file? mkido
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

some packages do not have a free distribution which prevents shipping in certain products like fedora. You can add repositories like rpmfusion or remi by installing the repository rpm they have on their site and then use

yum install xxx.rpm

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 4:27 pm    Post subject: thanks, again karlH. Reply with quote

Hi! Dear karl, thanks a lot again!!, letting me know the way to get nonfree packages.

Some packages are commercially available, and the other are free. That is very flexible way to go. A very good idea.

Now, I am learning about nonfree package available by RPMFusion. I actually went to "http://rpmfusion.org", and got both free and nonfree repositories downloaded, and installed on FC12. Then, from there, I don't know how to find a way to get "libmp3lame.so.0" in a certain package. Another question, I don't know how to pay. I browsered "system" category and "video and audio" category, or under alphagbet [L], I didn't see the likely stuff.

Your comment,
Quote:
yum install xxx.rpm


This way only works when I know the exact package name (XXX) to get. How does this payment work? One time for a package? Monthly subscrition? Excuse me, I am a newbie to this RPMFusion. Any help,.. thanks.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah, the xxx.rpm is the ices rpm package, yum will look at the dependencies and search through the cache that it maintains to locate what you want.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Hi! karl, Reply with quote

Hi! karl, thanks always,

But you know, Ices has two version 0.4 (mp3) series and 2.x (ogg) serires. Whenever I do at FC7, FC12,

# yum install ices

The RedHat repository of yum installed Ices 2.x (ogg) series always. So, for a while, I put the priority on MP3, namely Ices 0.4 version (mp3 stream), and I decided not to do the simple command [# yum install ices]. MP3 stream is well recognized by Windows Media Player and Apple's iTUNE. While OGG stream is not recognized by Windows Media Player nor Apple's iTUNE. On the contrary, OGG stream works very well with LINUX FC12 when I tested here. The situation of MP3 vs OGG right now is not overlapping but one side (Windows, Apple) or the other side (LINUX).


To install Ices-0.4, since I am in the middle of RPMFusion trial, to install nonfree RPM or Library, which has "libmp3lame.so.0", Will you or someone continue guide me a little bit more, how to purchase nonfree stuff at or by using RPMFusion?

Thanks so much in advance! mkido
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 06, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I already told you, ices0 is only available and maintained by AT RPMS repository. Till you don't add this repo, you'll not get ices0 ans specific dependancies.

You only need

yum install ices0

and all dependancie swill be grabbed from other repos.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:53 am    Post subject: Merci beaucoup, jrc! Reply with quote

(fr:) Très, très bien, jcr. Merci, beaucoup,

(en:) I never used a 3rd party repository for yum such as ATrpms.net, so until I carefully read the instruction of installation of repository of ATrpms.net, I haven't realized there is an repository other than RedHat default repository.

I added the repository of ATrpms.net, then edited the yum.conf file, as explained in ATrpms.net documentation, then finally I ran the command you gave me,


Quote:
yum install ices0


Voilà, ices0 was installed on my FC12, with libmp3lame library dependency. (fr:) Merci, beaucoup, mille fois, jcr.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 4:50 pm    Post subject: Hi karlH, jcr and everyone, Reply with quote

Hi! thanks, thanks, karlH, jcr and everyone.


This is more like an announcement rather than actual post, but now my company's Web server running for 2 weeks stably streaming by Ices 2.3.1 and a version of Ices0 without any interruption at FC7 (the forum thread is somewhere else).

Based on this success, I am working on hardware of enough memory (4 GB RAM or 8 GB RAM) with FC12, and I would like to try, two or three streamings Ices0-A, Ices0-B, for CLASSIC and CONTEMPORARY so on,,,

The future challenge will be the customized ON-Demand Streaming, hundreds or thousands of short sound clips. At least I will try it with this Forum. In a few weeks, I will start reviewing and examining Ice0 source codes (of ATrpms.net) and compilation practices. Help me again at that time. Bye now.

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